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		<title>By: Chinkinthearmour</title>
		<link>http://www.mutantfrog.com/2009/04/27/a-history-of-violence/comment-page-2/#comment-529404</link>
		<dc:creator>Chinkinthearmour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 18:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really don&#039;t think the disapproval of Ikizukuri is rooted in a fundamental disconnection between slaughter and produce in the public consciousness. On the contrary, people understand very well that an animal dies before you eat it. That&#039;s the problem, this is an aberration of that chain of events. 

More than that, there is no good reason not to kill the animal before eating it. You&#039;re not in any rush to eat it, no predator is going to rip it from your mouth, nor could it conceivably run from you. Which means the fact that it&#039;s live is a novelty. You&#039;re actually taking pleasure from the fact that it&#039;s alive while you&#039;re eating it. You&#039;re taking pleasure in it&#039;s pain, torture and slow death. That is truly barbaric.

There&#039;s no way in hell i&#039;m buying the &#039;it tastes better&#039; crap. of course it doesn&#039;t. fresh is one thing, live is another. And even if it did taste better, that&#039;s not a good enough reason to torture a creature. by that logic, your boss should whip you while you work, because it will make you go faster.

I love sushi and i love meat and god help me i will have a lobotomy before i become vegetarian, but i will never endeavour to eat live creatures. It&#039;s appalling.

And to those of you who brought up whaling, I&#039;m Australian and have no issue with eating whales. I have issues with the extinction of an animal because some people think it&#039;s tasty. So what i&#039;m saying is, I have an issue with stupidity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really don&#8217;t think the disapproval of Ikizukuri is rooted in a fundamental disconnection between slaughter and produce in the public consciousness. On the contrary, people understand very well that an animal dies before you eat it. That&#8217;s the problem, this is an aberration of that chain of events.</p>
<p>More than that, there is no good reason not to kill the animal before eating it. You&#8217;re not in any rush to eat it, no predator is going to rip it from your mouth, nor could it conceivably run from you. Which means the fact that it&#8217;s live is a novelty. You&#8217;re actually taking pleasure from the fact that it&#8217;s alive while you&#8217;re eating it. You&#8217;re taking pleasure in it&#8217;s pain, torture and slow death. That is truly barbaric.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no way in hell i&#8217;m buying the &#8216;it tastes better&#8217; crap. of course it doesn&#8217;t. fresh is one thing, live is another. And even if it did taste better, that&#8217;s not a good enough reason to torture a creature. by that logic, your boss should whip you while you work, because it will make you go faster.</p>
<p>I love sushi and i love meat and god help me i will have a lobotomy before i become vegetarian, but i will never endeavour to eat live creatures. It&#8217;s appalling.</p>
<p>And to those of you who brought up whaling, I&#8217;m Australian and have no issue with eating whales. I have issues with the extinction of an animal because some people think it&#8217;s tasty. So what i&#8217;m saying is, I have an issue with stupidity.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Berman</title>
		<link>http://www.mutantfrog.com/2009/04/27/a-history-of-violence/comment-page-2/#comment-453199</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Berman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 07:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Despite the vast amount of media coverage, there is no such thing as a nyotaimori restaurant. On the very rare occasions it is actually done, it has to be specially arranged, with a model hired to serve as the &quot;table.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite the vast amount of media coverage, there is no such thing as a nyotaimori restaurant. On the very rare occasions it is actually done, it has to be specially arranged, with a model hired to serve as the &#8220;table.&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: bt</title>
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		<dc:creator>bt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 22:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been looking for a place like this to eat in Japan, I am currently staying in Tachikawa and would like to find both a Nyotaimori restaurant and a restaurant that serves Ikizukuri.

Any recommendations, also what is the price range?

thanks - T</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been looking for a place like this to eat in Japan, I am currently staying in Tachikawa and would like to find both a Nyotaimori restaurant and a restaurant that serves Ikizukuri.</p>
<p>Any recommendations, also what is the price range?</p>
<p>thanks &#8211; T</p>
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		<title>By: catoneinutica</title>
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		<dc:creator>catoneinutica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 06:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@that guy who thinks you&#039;re pathetic

&quot;Eat animals by all means, but why torture them? Kill it, eat it. Do fish feel pain? We don’t know, but we may as well wait until they’re dead before we cut them up. It makes no difference to the taste.&quot;

Well, as mentioned above, a lot of Koreans, inter alia, seem to think that beating the shit out of a dog before killing it floods its body with tasty, erection-enhancing hormones.  Don&#039;t know if it&#039;s true.  Ask Aceface; he&#039;s partaken of dog.

-catone
-George H. W. Bush (pere) was once told by a Japanese politician that he would&#039;ve likely been eaten if he&#039;d been shot down over Japan when he was a WWII airman.  The liver of a downed airman was considered a particularly tasty delicacy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@that guy who thinks you&#8217;re pathetic</p>
<p>&#8220;Eat animals by all means, but why torture them? Kill it, eat it. Do fish feel pain? We don&#8217;t know, but we may as well wait until they&#8217;re dead before we cut them up. It makes no difference to the taste.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, as mentioned above, a lot of Koreans, inter alia, seem to think that beating the shit out of a dog before killing it floods its body with tasty, erection-enhancing hormones.  Don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s true.  Ask Aceface; he&#8217;s partaken of dog.</p>
<p>-catone<br />
-George H. W. Bush (pere) was once told by a Japanese politician that he would&#8217;ve likely been eaten if he&#8217;d been shot down over Japan when he was a <span class="caps">WWII</span> airman.  The liver of a downed airman was considered a particularly tasty delicacy.</p>
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		<title>By: That guy who thinks you're pathetic</title>
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		<dc:creator>That guy who thinks you're pathetic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 19:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eat animals by all means, but why torture them? Kill it, eat it. Do fish feel pain? We don&#039;t know, but we may as well wait until they&#039;re dead before we cut them up. It makes no difference to the taste. 

This thread mostly consists of insecure guys rubbing their hardened dicks up against other guys&#039; hardened dicks and saying &quot;I&#039;m harder than you, I plunged my cock into a goat&#039;s carotid moments after it was slit by a carbide circular saw, and it was winking at me with its dying eyes, urging me to come quickly into its bloodstream, so that the enzymes in my semen would break down its fine proteins, tenderising the meat, as well as seasoning it. Oh, and it would be the closest thing to a pussy that I would ever feel&quot;.

Really macho, guys. No, wait. Really pathetic. Not so much what you&#039;re saying, but the desperate self-respect which you derive from it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eat animals by all means, but why torture them? Kill it, eat it. Do fish feel pain? We don&#8217;t know, but we may as well wait until they&#8217;re dead before we cut them up. It makes no difference to the taste.</p>
<p>This thread mostly consists of insecure guys rubbing their hardened dicks up against other guys&#8217; hardened dicks and saying &#8220;I&#8217;m harder than you, I plunged my cock into a goat&#8217;s carotid moments after it was slit by a carbide circular saw, and it was winking at me with its dying eyes, urging me to come quickly into its bloodstream, so that the enzymes in my semen would break down its fine proteins, tenderising the meat, as well as seasoning it. Oh, and it would be the closest thing to a pussy that I would ever feel&#8221;.</p>
<p>Really macho, guys. No, wait. Really pathetic. Not so much what you&#8217;re saying, but the desperate self-respect which you derive from it.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Berman</title>
		<link>http://www.mutantfrog.com/2009/04/27/a-history-of-violence/comment-page-2/#comment-370486</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Berman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 08:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Mongolians are also known for the love of horse,but they do eat them.However horse meat is considered as the diet for poor people.The exception is Kazakh,the tukish minority who consume the horse jerky regularly.So it’s horse meats are abundant and cheap in Mongolia.Which is the reason why a Japanese company operating there and exports horse meat for horse meat sashimi,we call basashi,to Japan.&quot;

I had quite a lot of horse meat when visiting Kazakhstan. It wasn&#039;t particularly good as meats go, but that&#039;s certainly no reason to ban it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Mongolians are also known for the love of horse,but they do eat them.However horse meat is considered as the diet for poor people.The exception is Kazakh,the tukish minority who consume the horse jerky regularly.So it&#8217;s horse meats are abundant and cheap in Mongolia.Which is the reason why a Japanese company operating there and exports horse meat for horse meat sashimi,we call basashi,to Japan.&#8221;</p>
<p>I had quite a lot of horse meat when visiting Kazakhstan. It wasn&#8217;t particularly good as meats go, but that&#8217;s certainly no reason to ban it.</p>
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		<title>By: von Kaufman-Turkestansky</title>
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		<dc:creator>von Kaufman-Turkestansky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 19:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The creature’s arms were still clearly twitching…&quot;

&quot;Clearly twitching&quot;? They look to be tapping impatiently, wondering when this business of being eaten will finally be over - the noodle dress is sooo embarrassing.

Regarding the Bryce and Berman comments on intelligence - what about the Octopus? There is evidence out there that this is one smart invertebrate, and yet we eat them all the time. You can buy them canned. But in the UK they are &quot;honorary vertebrates&quot; for science procedures purposes.

At any rate, their intelligence is deeply different from ours and that of other mammals.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cephalopod_intelligence
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octopus
http://www.slate.com/id/2192211/

http://discovermagazine.com/2003/oct/feateye
&quot;That Steve was named Steve was also revealing: Octopuses are the only animals, other than mammals like cuddly seals, that aquarium workers bother to name.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The creature&#8217;s arms were still clearly twitching&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Clearly twitching&#8221;? They look to be tapping impatiently, wondering when this business of being eaten will finally be over &#8211; the noodle dress is sooo embarrassing.</p>
<p>Regarding the Bryce and Berman comments on intelligence &#8211; what about the Octopus? There is evidence out there that this is one smart invertebrate, and yet we eat them all the time. You can buy them canned. But in the UK they are &#8220;honorary vertebrates&#8221; for science procedures purposes.</p>
<p>At any rate, their intelligence is deeply different from ours and that of other mammals.<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cephalopod_intelligence" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cephalopod_intelligence</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octopus" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octopus</a><br />
<a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2192211/" rel="nofollow">http://www.slate.com/id/2192211/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://discovermagazine.com/2003/oct/feateye" rel="nofollow">http://discovermagazine.com/2003/oct/feateye</a><br />
&#8220;That Steve was named Steve was also revealing: Octopuses are the only animals, other than mammals like cuddly seals, that aquarium workers bother to name.&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: Curzon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curzon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 04:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MattAlt and others: Friday night work?

Ace: Sorry, but hey, whenever you come to town we always hold a special dinner regardless of anything else in the schedule.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MattAlt and others: Friday night work?</p>
<p>Ace: Sorry, but hey, whenever you come to town we always hold a special dinner regardless of anything else in the schedule.</p>
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		<title>By: Aceface</title>
		<link>http://www.mutantfrog.com/2009/04/27/a-history-of-violence/comment-page-2/#comment-369436</link>
		<dc:creator>Aceface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 03:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some do.
http://www.asiaone.com/Travel/News/Story/A1Story20080331-57109.html

Find this in association with googling swine flu and Egyptian government&#039;s order of wiping out all the pigs in the country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some do.<br />
<a href="http://www.asiaone.com/Travel/News/Story/A1Story20080331-57109.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.asiaone.com/Travel/News/Story/A1Story20080331-57109.html</a></p>
<p>Find this in association with googling swine flu and Egyptian government&#8217;s order of wiping out all the pigs in the country.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;While we’re on the topic, what’s up with the self-centered attitude of religious believers who think they should thank their deity of choice for giving them food? They took the food, cut it up and put it on their plate themselves!&quot;

I believe Bart Simpson said it best with &quot;Dear God, we paid for all this stuff ourselves, so thanks for nothing!&quot;

Of course, some people have no sense of humour:

http://books.google.com/books?id=tGCcH2l4jUUC&amp;pg=PA8&amp;lpg=PA8&amp;dq=Dear+God,+we+paid+for+all+of+this+stuff,+so+thanks+for+nothing&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=ZZ60PWrpCq&amp;sig=b11SjLmp1pRHOKYYdNGGsBgpRe0&amp;hl=en&amp;ei=fYX4SYuWKZPaMb33kcQP&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;ct=result&amp;resnum=1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;While we&#8217;re on the topic, what&#8217;s up with the self-centered attitude of religious believers who think they should thank their deity of choice for giving them food? They took the food, cut it up and put it on their plate themselves!&#8221;</p>
<p>I believe Bart Simpson said it best with &#8220;Dear God, we paid for all this stuff ourselves, so thanks for nothing!&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course, some people have no sense of humour:</p>
<p><a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=tGCcH2l4jUUC&#038;pg=PA8&#038;lpg=PA8&#038;dq=Dear+God,+we+paid+for+all+of+this+stuff,+so+thanks+for+nothing&#038;source=bl&#038;ots=ZZ60PWrpCq&#038;sig=b11SjLmp1pRHOKYYdNGGsBgpRe0&#038;hl=en&#038;ei=fYX4SYuWKZPaMb33kcQP&#038;sa=X&#038;oi=book_result&#038;ct=result&#038;resnum=1" rel="nofollow">http://books.google.com/books?id=tGCcH2l4jUUC&#038;pg=PA8&#038;lpg=PA8&#038;dq=Dear+God,+we+paid+for+all+of+this+stuff,+so+thanks+for+nothing&#038;source=bl&#038;ots=ZZ60PWrpCq&#038;sig=b11SjLmp1pRHOKYYdNGGsBgpRe0&#038;hl=en&#038;ei=fYX4SYuWKZPaMb33kcQP&#038;sa=X&#038;oi=book_result&#038;ct=result&#038;resnum=1</a></p>
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