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		<title>By: rkk</title>
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		<dc:creator>rkk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 20:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gentlemen:

I  am a Nikkei Sansei living in Torrance, California.  I have interest in investing in and operating a farm - organic produce, flowers, heirloom seeds, etc. - in Chiba Prefecture.

Can anyone help me find a Nikkei Brazilian farming organization in Chiba Prfecture to obtain more information?

Regards
rkk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gentlemen:</p>
<p>I  am a Nikkei Sansei living in Torrance, California.  I have interest in investing in and operating a farm &#8211; organic produce, flowers, heirloom seeds, etc. &#8211; in Chiba Prefecture.</p>
<p>Can anyone help me find a Nikkei Brazilian farming organization in Chiba Prfecture to obtain more information?</p>
<p>Regards<br />
rkk</p>
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		<title>By: khan</title>
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		<dc:creator>khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 06:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi im khan live  nagoya  im looking brazil  femail  friend  im give home  job  im like help  and need  friend  im whait our  mail  i hope see u soon here</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi im khan live  nagoya  im looking brazil  femail  friend  im give home  job  im like help  and need  friend  im whait our  mail  i hope see u soon here</p>
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		<title>By: Aceface</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aceface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 08:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Roy:
The name of the chairman is Sergio Kazuto Matsuda.except that there&#039;s nothing to add in your original text.
I agree about the &quot;rosy picture&quot; on NYT.
Onshi had been working for Detroit Free Press before he moved to NYT,wonder whether he would determine the symptom of the white flight in places like Dearborn or Highland Park with the argument like &quot;the cultural insularity of the white residents&quot;.

@Adamu:
I don&#039;t have to speak on behalf of our new Brazilian friend,but I believe it&#039;s pronounced as &quot;Joan&quot;.
The truth is,lots of Brazilians are here to work and make a better living.Not intend to become Japanese.I also covered mass rally of Brazilians in Nagoya on march 1st.All of them were waving Brazilian flags,but somehow strangely all the demand was targeted to Japanese government,which probably come from the fact that all of them know that  local Brazilian consulate has done next to nothing and can&#039;t ask for more.
I would brand them as &quot;nomad&quot; or &quot;migrant&quot; than immigrant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Roy:<br />
The name of the chairman is Sergio Kazuto Matsuda.except that there&#8217;s nothing to add in your original text.<br />
I agree about the &#8220;rosy picture&#8221; on <span class="caps">NYT</span>.<br />
Onshi had been working for Detroit Free Press before he moved to <span class="caps">NYT</span>,wonder whether he would determine the symptom of the white flight in places like Dearborn or Highland Park with the argument like &#8220;the cultural insularity of the white residents&#8221;.</p>
<p>@Adamu:<br />
I don&#8217;t have to speak on behalf of our new Brazilian friend,but I believe it&#8217;s pronounced as &#8220;Joan&#8221;.<br />
The truth is,lots of Brazilians are here to work and make a better living.Not intend to become Japanese.I also covered mass rally of Brazilians in Nagoya on march 1st.All of them were waving Brazilian flags,but somehow strangely all the demand was targeted to Japanese government,which probably come from the fact that all of them know that  local Brazilian consulate has done next to nothing and can&#8217;t ask for more.<br />
I would brand them as &#8220;nomad&#8221; or &#8220;migrant&#8221; than immigrant.</p>
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		<title>By: Adamu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adamu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 01:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joao (how do you pronounce that?? &quot;Joe Wow&quot;?)

Your story just about matches word for word what I have seen on NHK documentaries on this subject. 

If this recession ends up sending a majority of the Brazilian workers home, it looks like we might get a neatly packaged case study of a group of immigrants coming to Japan, importing their lifestyle wholesale, and then simply transplanting themselves back out when opportunity fades. I am tempted to call this a &quot;failure of Japan to integrate an immigrant population in their society&quot; but who&#039;s to say that&#039;s even necessarily desirable or possible.  

In the Mideast a plurality of the population of some countries consists of purposely unacculturated foreign workers, and the citizenry seems totally fine with it.. And in ancient Rome, it was actually &quot;romanized&quot; barbarians that slowly gained acceptance among the ranks of the military, took control of the emperor and ultimately brought about the collapse and fall of the empire in the west, so it doesn&#039;t necessarily follow that cultural assimilation automatically breeds stability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joao (how do you pronounce that?? &#8220;Joe Wow&#8221;?)</p>
<p>Your story just about matches word for word what I have seen on <span class="caps">NHK</span> documentaries on this subject.</p>
<p>If this recession ends up sending a majority of the Brazilian workers home, it looks like we might get a neatly packaged case study of a group of immigrants coming to Japan, importing their lifestyle wholesale, and then simply transplanting themselves back out when opportunity fades. I am tempted to call this a &#8220;failure of Japan to integrate an immigrant population in their society&#8221; but who&#8217;s to say that&#8217;s even necessarily desirable or possible.</p>
<p>In the Mideast a plurality of the population of some countries consists of purposely unacculturated foreign workers, and the citizenry seems totally fine with it.. And in ancient Rome, it was actually &#8220;romanized&#8221; barbarians that slowly gained acceptance among the ranks of the military, took control of the emperor and ultimately brought about the collapse and fall of the empire in the west, so it doesn&#8217;t necessarily follow that cultural assimilation automatically breeds stability.</p>
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		<title>By: João Paulo Rosman</title>
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		<dc:creator>João Paulo Rosman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was in Nagoya I stayed in a Danchi it was rather strange because I felt like I was in Brazil, most of the people were Brazilians and spoke Portuguese.
It wasn&#039;t as trashy as this one you showed.

I believe that the big problem about the Brazilian immigration to Japan was how it grew. By the middle of the 90&#039;s we had a big recession (Oh yeah I&#039;m from Brazil, Hi) and a lot of people searched and found a better life in Japan, working there ass off as manufacturing jobs, and very little tried to enter (somehow) the Japanese society, placing their children in Japanese Schools and engaging in other Japanese day-to-day activities. Probably if you check the records of Brazilian Schools and Business there would be a Boom of opening by ht mid 90&#039;s. Making it harder to develop a Japanese - Brazilian engagement, since it is easier to recreate some Brazilian standards in Japan then trying to become Japanese Likewise.

I have many of friends from Japan then HAD TO come back to Brazil because of the recession and the Sad thing is that none of then can speak proper Japanese.

Lets see what will happen in the Future... I believe we are just seeing the tip of the iceberg.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was in Nagoya I stayed in a Danchi it was rather strange because I felt like I was in Brazil, most of the people were Brazilians and spoke Portuguese.<br />
It wasn&#8217;t as trashy as this one you showed.</p>
<p>I believe that the big problem about the Brazilian immigration to Japan was how it grew. By the middle of the 90&#8217;s we had a big recession (Oh yeah I&#8217;m from Brazil, Hi) and a lot of people searched and found a better life in Japan, working there ass off as manufacturing jobs, and very little tried to enter (somehow) the Japanese society, placing their children in Japanese Schools and engaging in other Japanese day-to-day activities. Probably if you check the records of Brazilian Schools and Business there would be a Boom of opening by ht mid 90&#8217;s. Making it harder to develop a Japanese &#8211; Brazilian engagement, since it is easier to recreate some Brazilian standards in Japan then trying to become Japanese Likewise.</p>
<p>I have many of friends from Japan then <span class="caps">HAD TO</span> come back to Brazil because of the recession and the Sad thing is that none of then can speak proper Japanese.</p>
<p>Lets see what will happen in the Future&#8230; I believe we are just seeing the tip of the iceberg.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Berman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roy Berman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, worth noting that in contrast to how Onishi is often criticized for dwelling on the negative in his articles, this particular one could be said to paint an unrealistically rosy picture of the situation. Has the environment/trash situation in Homi Danchi really deteriorated so much since mid-2008?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="caps">BTW</span>, worth noting that in contrast to how Onishi is often criticized for dwelling on the negative in his articles, this particular one could be said to paint an unrealistically rosy picture of the situation. Has the environment/trash situation in Homi Danchi really deteriorated so much since mid-2008?</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Berman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roy Berman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah yes, I actually remember seeing that article when it was first published and had completely forgotten that I&#039;d read it, even when I went to the place. It doesn&#039;t seem too bad, aside from the lousy title. And I also the first paragraph is wrong when it says &quot;Japan made an exception for Japanese-Brazilians.&quot; Wasn&#039;t the exception for anyone of Japanese descent, who happened to be mostly Brazilians, but also included many Peruvians and could theoretically include, say, US citizens?

Do you have any corrections to make on my own text?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah yes, I actually remember seeing that article when it was first published and had completely forgotten that I&#8217;d read it, even when I went to the place. It doesn&#8217;t seem too bad, aside from the lousy title. And I also the first paragraph is wrong when it says &#8220;Japan made an exception for Japanese-Brazilians.&#8221; Wasn&#8217;t the exception for anyone of Japanese descent, who happened to be mostly Brazilians, but also included many Peruvians and could theoretically include, say, US citizens?</p>
<p>Do you have any corrections to make on my own text?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 11:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NHK the other night had a show called 「離れても“アミーゴ”～滋賀 不況にゆれる教室～」 about the situation of one family living in a city in Shiga with a high population of Brazilians.  Both parents got laid off, and they were stuck with the decision of whether or not to continue paying for their son to go to a Brazilian school; furthermore, they had to decide what to do about staying in Japan (since they couldn&#039;t afford the trip home).

The kids have it tough because many of them do not come here young enough to be able to jump into an all-Japanese school environment.  I&#039;ve taught kids who came to Japan at 12 or 13 and were miserable in Japanese public schools.  These parents pay extra to send the kids to school in an all Portuguese environment, and then end up saving less.  The apartments the family in this documentary was staying in cost them 6000 yen a month, so you can only guess what they were taking home in factory wages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="caps">NHK</span> the other night had a show called 「離れても&#8220;アミーゴ&#8221;～滋賀 不況にゆれる教室～」 about the situation of one family living in a city in Shiga with a high population of Brazilians.  Both parents got laid off, and they were stuck with the decision of whether or not to continue paying for their son to go to a Brazilian school; furthermore, they had to decide what to do about staying in Japan (since they couldn&#8217;t afford the trip home).</p>
<p>The kids have it tough because many of them do not come here young enough to be able to jump into an all-Japanese school environment.  I&#8217;ve taught kids who came to Japan at 12 or 13 and were miserable in Japanese public schools.  These parents pay extra to send the kids to school in an all Portuguese environment, and then end up saving less.  The apartments the family in this documentary was staying in cost them 6000 yen a month, so you can only guess what they were taking home in factory wages.</p>
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		<title>By: Aceface</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aceface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 10:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NYT&#039;s take on danchi issue.


http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/02/world/asia/02japan.html?n=Top/Reference/Times%20Topics/People/O/Onishi,%20Norimitsu&amp;pagewanted=all</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="caps">NYT</span>&#8217;s take on danchi issue.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/02/world/asia/02japan.html?n=Top/Reference/Times%20Topics/People/O/Onishi,%20Norimitsu&#038;pagewanted=all" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/02/world/asia/02japan.html?n=Top/Reference/Times%20Topics/People/O/Onishi,%20Norimitsu&#038;pagewanted=all</a></p>
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		<title>By: Roy Berman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roy Berman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 09:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It does sound suspiciously like the aluminum can tab thing. Which, note, was never actually a SCAM so much as people attempting to do the same thing as this bottle cap proposal without realizing there was any point to it. Of course, a single bottle cap is quite a bit more volume than a single tab from a metal soda can so maybe there really is something to it.

Anyway, it IS close enough to the urban myth about can tabs so it would be a good idea to get Snopes to put in a supplement saying that THIS seems to be a real scheme.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It does sound suspiciously like the aluminum can tab thing. Which, note, was never actually a <span class="caps">SCAM</span> so much as people attempting to do the same thing as this bottle cap proposal without realizing there was any point to it. Of course, a single bottle cap is quite a bit more volume than a single tab from a metal soda can so maybe there really is something to it.</p>
<p>Anyway, it IS close enough to the urban myth about can tabs so it would be a good idea to get Snopes to put in a supplement saying that <span class="caps">THIS</span> seems to be a real scheme.</p>
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