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		<title>By: Mutantfrog Travelogue &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Late night supermarket salarymen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mutantfrog Travelogue &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Late night supermarket salarymen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 04:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] up with just three items &#8211; a ready-to-eat piece of food, some ostumami beer snack, and the ever-popular but morally reprehensible happoshu or other near-beer. There seem to be more of them shopping at the discount supermarket Big A than Ito Yokado, which is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] up with just three items &#8211; a ready-to-eat piece of food, some ostumami beer snack, and the ever-popular but morally reprehensible happoshu or other near-beer. There seem to be more of them shopping at the discount supermarket Big A than Ito Yokado, which is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chuwy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuwy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 02:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, there are loads of places you can get good crat beer at.
Popeyes now has around 70 beers on tap. Usually guaranteed to find at least something you&#039;ll like there. Though it&#039;s getting more and more expensive. Some beers into the 1500yen range.
For craft beer, Popeyes is the obvious choice, along with Bulldog in Ginza (reasonably priced, when they haven&#039;t ran out of their guest taps) or the nearby Towers (smaller stnading only but some interesting beers). Shibuya has the  Aldgate (British style but with about 19 taps, all decent beer), the Griffon (large selection of hard to find brews), Cataratas (quite expensive, though), Amusement (also not super cheap and tends to have the big foreign beers). Yokohama has the Thrash Zone (great little bar with 9 taps - American West Coast and Japanese craft beer), Cheers, Craft Beer bar.
Don&#039;t forget The Nakameguro Taproom. Their beer is allmade by the same craft bbrewery in Numazu (Baird Beer) but it&#039;s pretty good. There&#039;s an IPA fest going on now, with 10 special IPAs on offer.

Happy hunting.

There&#039;s definitely a good choice of good quality craft beer available in Japan, but it&#039;s getting more and more expensive.  One jsut has to ask if alcohol is the b all and end all. If so, then happoshu is here to stay. Personally, I choose taste, flavor and principles - but a bit of alcohol doesn&#039;t hurt, either.

As for buying beer in the store, I recommend Tanakaya at Mejiro. Best selection in Japan, I reckon. Also Sugaya, near Kajigaya station (well, 2km). 

YonaYona is possibly the best value for money beer on the market. 260 yen a can and tastes damn good too. Also, it&#039;s a significant brew, as the guy from Yaho brewing was one of the few who kickstarted the real ale boom that is sweeping the craft beer scene. Yonayona is one of their first and I do like almost everything that Yaho brewing creates. 
The Ginga Kogen weissen and wheat beer is also not bad (but stay away from their pale ale).

That chocolate &#039;beer&#039; ranks up there with the likes of the &#039;space&#039; beer, made with some ingredients that spent time in space. So that makes it space beer? The company boss&#039;s comments on that beer were also priceless. It showed that he had absolutley no idea of what beer was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, there are loads of places you can get good crat beer at.<br />
Popeyes now has around 70 beers on tap. Usually guaranteed to find at least something you&#8217;ll like there. Though it&#8217;s getting more and more expensive. Some beers into the 1500yen range.<br />
For craft beer, Popeyes is the obvious choice, along with Bulldog in Ginza (reasonably priced, when they haven&#8217;t ran out of their guest taps) or the nearby Towers (smaller stnading only but some interesting beers). Shibuya has the  Aldgate (British style but with about 19 taps, all decent beer), the Griffon (large selection of hard to find brews), Cataratas (quite expensive, though), Amusement (also not super cheap and tends to have the big foreign beers). Yokohama has the Thrash Zone (great little bar with 9 taps &#8211; American West Coast and Japanese craft beer), Cheers, Craft Beer bar.<br />
Don&#8217;t forget The Nakameguro Taproom. Their beer is allmade by the same craft bbrewery in Numazu (Baird Beer) but it&#8217;s pretty good. There&#8217;s an <span class="caps">IPA</span> fest going on now, with 10 special IPAs on offer.</p>
<p>Happy hunting.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s definitely a good choice of good quality craft beer available in Japan, but it&#8217;s getting more and more expensive.  One jsut has to ask if alcohol is the b all and end all. If so, then happoshu is here to stay. Personally, I choose taste, flavor and principles &#8211; but a bit of alcohol doesn&#8217;t hurt, either.</p>
<p>As for buying beer in the store, I recommend Tanakaya at Mejiro. Best selection in Japan, I reckon. Also Sugaya, near Kajigaya station (well, 2km).</p>
<p>YonaYona is possibly the best value for money beer on the market. 260 yen a can and tastes damn good too. Also, it&#8217;s a significant brew, as the guy from Yaho brewing was one of the few who kickstarted the real ale boom that is sweeping the craft beer scene. Yonayona is one of their first and I do like almost everything that Yaho brewing creates.<br />
The Ginga Kogen weissen and wheat beer is also not bad (but stay away from their pale ale).</p>
<p>That chocolate &#8216;beer&#8217; ranks up there with the likes of the &#8216;space&#8217; beer, made with some ingredients that spent time in space. So that makes it space beer? The company boss&#8217;s comments on that beer were also priceless. It showed that he had absolutley no idea of what beer was.</p>
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		<title>By: Garrett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 12:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless I&#039;m quite mistaken (which would not be the first time), &quot;malt liquor&quot; in the US is defined on the basis of alcohol content.  Of course, in the US, that could be a state-by-state thing as well.

To add to what Pettis said: with the exception of Asahi&#039;s Premium beers, the dividing line between regular beer (Asahi Super Dry, Kirin Lager, Kirin Ichiban-shibori, Sapporo Black Label, etc.) and premium beers (Yebisu in all its varieties, Suntory Premium Malt&#039;s, etc.) seems to be ingredients.  With the exception of Suntory Malt&#039;s, the regular beers are made from a combination of wheat, rice, and corn starch, with the corn starch being the ingredient that smacks of going for the cheapest possible ingredients.  Malt&#039;s and the Premiums (other than Asahi&#039;s) are made with wheat, hops, and water.  I doubt they&#039;re sticking to the Bavarian &lt;em&gt;Reinheitsgebot&lt;/em&gt; on the Premiums, but at least it&#039;s not beer made in the manner of soda-pop.

Adamu, isn&#039;t Sparkling Hop a third-type?

I love the can-listing of some third types as その他の酒.  Why even bother to explain what the swill is?

If it makes you feel any better, Adamu, Kirin, as part of its &quot;chilled beer&quot; line, which includes Premium 無濾過 - the finest mass-produced beer available from any of the Big 4,  recently released (or re-released, I&#039;m not sure) a Chocolate beer.  Not great, but not awful. 

Year by year, the number of domestic microbrews available in liquor stores and department stores increases, and there are some really good ones being made.  As mentioned above, Popeye in Ryogoku is a great place to sample offerings from around the country.  Even better, it&#039;s within walking distance of a run-down &lt;em&gt;izakaya&lt;/em&gt; in Asakusa-bashi, whose name escapes me, where the price for a &lt;em&gt;chu-joki&lt;/em&gt; of Sapporo recently climbed from 50 to 100 yen.  Big, huge place.  Cheap, bad food, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless I&#8217;m quite mistaken (which would not be the first time), &#8220;malt liquor&#8221; in the US is defined on the basis of alcohol content.  Of course, in the US, that could be a state-by-state thing as well.</p>
<p>To add to what Pettis said: with the exception of Asahi&#8217;s Premium beers, the dividing line between regular beer (Asahi Super Dry, Kirin Lager, Kirin Ichiban-shibori, Sapporo Black Label, etc.) and premium beers (Yebisu in all its varieties, Suntory Premium Malt&#8217;s, etc.) seems to be ingredients.  With the exception of Suntory Malt&#8217;s, the regular beers are made from a combination of wheat, rice, and corn starch, with the corn starch being the ingredient that smacks of going for the cheapest possible ingredients.  Malt&#8217;s and the Premiums (other than Asahi&#8217;s) are made with wheat, hops, and water.  I doubt they&#8217;re sticking to the Bavarian <em>Reinheitsgebot</em> on the Premiums, but at least it&#8217;s not beer made in the manner of soda-pop.</p>
<p>Adamu, isn&#8217;t Sparkling Hop a third-type?</p>
<p>I love the can-listing of some third types as その他の酒.  Why even bother to explain what the swill is?</p>
<p>If it makes you feel any better, Adamu, Kirin, as part of its &#8220;chilled beer&#8221; line, which includes Premium 無濾過 &#8211; the finest mass-produced beer available from any of the Big 4,  recently released (or re-released, I&#8217;m not sure) a Chocolate beer.  Not great, but not awful.</p>
<p>Year by year, the number of domestic microbrews available in liquor stores and department stores increases, and there are some really good ones being made.  As mentioned above, Popeye in Ryogoku is a great place to sample offerings from around the country.  Even better, it&#8217;s within walking distance of a run-down <em>izakaya</em> in Asakusa-bashi, whose name escapes me, where the price for a <em>chu-joki</em> of Sapporo recently climbed from 50 to 100 yen.  Big, huge place.  Cheap, bad food, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 07:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, I was wrong. Classic definitely has rice in it. Strange...it tastes so much better than Ichiban shibori.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, I was wrong. Classic definitely has rice in it. Strange&#8230;it tastes so much better than Ichiban shibori.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 06:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pettis: Don&#039;t forget Kirin Classic, which I believe is 100% malt and actually quite good.

Premium Malts is the hoppiest and my personal choice, although recently I&#039;ve been going with the Meiji Lager or, as mentioned above, Yona Yona Pale Ale - I just wonder how long my AM PM will continue to stock it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pettis: Don&#8217;t forget Kirin Classic, which I believe is 100% malt and actually quite good.</p>
<p>Premium Malts is the hoppiest and my personal choice, although recently I&#8217;ve been going with the Meiji Lager or, as mentioned above, Yona Yona Pale Ale &#8211; I just wonder how long my <span class="caps">AM PM</span> will continue to stock it.</p>
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		<title>By: M-Bone</title>
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		<dc:creator>M-Bone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 02:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pettis, great to see a beerologist among us. Which of the premium beers do you recommend?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pettis, great to see a beerologist among us. Which of the premium beers do you recommend?</p>
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		<title>By: pettis</title>
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		<dc:creator>pettis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 01:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. This tax structure is indeed infuriating as it effectively promotes a &quot;race to the bottom&quot; in terms of quality among the major brewers, since they have an economic incentive to devote more R&amp;D to creating popular happoshu rather than real beer. I am heartened, though, by the fact that the world of Japanese craft beer seems to be growing, though, as more people discover the joys of beer that is both &quot;real&quot; _and_ flavorful. In the last year or so a dozen or so new beer bars devoted to good beer--domestic and foreign--have popped all around Tokyo and even in the suburbs. I can only hope that the continued growth of Japanese craft beer will lead all involved--brewers, consumers, and tax officials--to rethink the usefulness of happoshu as a separate alcohol tax category.

This leads to a point of clarification--Suntory Malt&#039;s is the only &quot;regular&quot; Japanese real beer that is all malt. Kirin Ichiban Shibori, Asahi Super Dry, and Sapporo (Black Label) all make us of adjunct ingredients, typically rice, corn, or a combination of the two. Using these adjuncts makes the beer cheaper to produce since barley malt is more expensive. (I was happy to hear that Kirin is launching a &quot;new&quot; Ichiban Shibori this spring that will be 100% malt.) It&#039;s only when you move up to the &quot;premium&quot; real beers that all malt becomes the standard--Suntory Premium Malts; Kirin&#039;s The Gold, Nippon Premium, and Heartland; Asahi Prime Time; and the Ebisu series from Sapporo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. This tax structure is indeed infuriating as it effectively promotes a &#8220;race to the bottom&#8221; in terms of quality among the major brewers, since they have an economic incentive to devote more R&#038;D to creating popular happoshu rather than real beer. I am heartened, though, by the fact that the world of Japanese craft beer seems to be growing, though, as more people discover the joys of beer that is both &#8220;real&#8221; <em>and</em> flavorful. In the last year or so a dozen or so new beer bars devoted to good beer&#8212;domestic and foreign&#8212;have popped all around Tokyo and even in the suburbs. I can only hope that the continued growth of Japanese craft beer will lead all involved&#8212;brewers, consumers, and tax officials&#8212;to rethink the usefulness of happoshu as a separate alcohol tax category.</p>
<p>This leads to a point of clarification&#8212;Suntory Malt&#8217;s is the only &#8220;regular&#8221; Japanese real beer that is all malt. Kirin Ichiban Shibori, Asahi Super Dry, and Sapporo (Black Label) all make us of adjunct ingredients, typically rice, corn, or a combination of the two. Using these adjuncts makes the beer cheaper to produce since barley malt is more expensive. (I was happy to hear that Kirin is launching a &#8220;new&#8221; Ichiban Shibori this spring that will be 100% malt.) It&#8217;s only when you move up to the &#8220;premium&#8221; real beers that all malt becomes the standard&#8212;Suntory Premium Malts; Kirin&#8217;s The Gold, Nippon Premium, and Heartland; Asahi Prime Time; and the Ebisu series from Sapporo.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Popeye is closed on Sundays. Try one of these places: http://boozelist.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Popeye is closed on Sundays. Try one of these places: <a href="http://boozelist.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://boozelist.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bryce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn. Wish I could make it. Could you hold off till September?</description>
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		<title>By: Joe Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 12:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sunday? Bloggers&#039; after-party?</description>
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