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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;War and Japan: The Non-Fiction Manga of Mizuki Shigeru&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Jade Oc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jade Oc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think if we look at it generously, then we have to say that even the most non-fiction manga, if it has historical characters in speaking roles, will almost certainly have to make some of those words up unless every single quote is a genuine quote. And no doubt a ton of other creative differences, based largely on not having the information. I can&#039;t really see how, for example, &quot;Embracing Defeat&quot; could be made into a totally non-fiction manga. Certainly not a very good one. 

&quot;Sensoron&quot; might be considered a non-fiction manga, though the &quot;non-fiction&quot; aspect of it might be subject to debate... I also think it sucks as a manga - more like an illustrated polemic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think if we look at it generously, then we have to say that even the most non-fiction manga, if it has historical characters in speaking roles, will almost certainly have to make some of those words up unless every single quote is a genuine quote. And no doubt a ton of other creative differences, based largely on not having the information. I can&#8217;t really see how, for example, &#8220;Embracing Defeat&#8221; could be made into a totally non-fiction manga. Certainly not a very good one.</p>
<p>&#8220;Sensoron&#8221; might be considered a non-fiction manga, though the &#8220;non-fiction&#8221; aspect of it might be subject to debate&#8230; I also think it sucks as a manga &#8211; more like an illustrated polemic.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benjamin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 03:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that by that logic, all forms of media are fictional. Maybe even all narratives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that by that logic, all forms of media are fictional. Maybe even all narratives.</p>
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		<title>By: non-fiction books</title>
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		<dc:creator>non-fiction books</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>non-fiction manga? I know the facts are true and the history remains the same but the fact that its in manga format makes it fiction doesnt it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>non-fiction manga? I know the facts are true and the history remains the same but the fact that its in manga format makes it fiction doesnt it?</p>
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		<title>By: M-Bone</title>
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		<dc:creator>M-Bone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 09:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent points Mozu. I admire the individuals that you menioned and will add Kobayashi Masaki to the list as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent points Mozu. I admire the individuals that you menioned and will add Kobayashi Masaki to the list as well.</p>
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		<title>By: mozu</title>
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		<dc:creator>mozu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 06:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;The senchuha also has a strong conservative element that just didn`t want to say anything about the war apart from anti-A-bomb platitudes.

I am not interested in those idiots and the ex-soldiers I can respect are only the guys who&#039;ve kept the silence with regret or succeeded in telling the truth without excuses or exhibitionistic repentant rituals. I feel the similar tone in representative senchuha artists like Kihachi Okamoto, Futaro Yamada, Shigeru Mizuki, Seijun Suzuki,  etc. Their nihilistic and humourous tone is very different from senzenha artists who&#039;ve experienced liberal Taisho era. Yes, this kind of argument is limited to intellectuals and artists, but it seems to me that Mizuki represent more popular tone and his stories have the capacity for evoking the souls of the mass including my grandfather.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>The senchuha also has a strong conservative element that just didn`t want to say anything about the war apart from anti-A-bomb platitudes.</p>
<p>I am not interested in those idiots and the ex-soldiers I can respect are only the guys who&#8217;ve kept the silence with regret or succeeded in telling the truth without excuses or exhibitionistic repentant rituals. I feel the similar tone in representative senchuha artists like Kihachi Okamoto, Futaro Yamada, Shigeru Mizuki, Seijun Suzuki,  etc. Their nihilistic and humourous tone is very different from senzenha artists who&#8217;ve experienced liberal Taisho era. Yes, this kind of argument is limited to intellectuals and artists, but it seems to me that Mizuki represent more popular tone and his stories have the capacity for evoking the souls of the mass including my grandfather.</p>
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		<title>By: M-Bone</title>
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		<dc:creator>M-Bone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 04:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The senchuha also has a strong conservative element that just didn`t want to say anything about the war apart from anti-A-bomb platitudes, however. The contrast with those guys is one of the things that makes Mizuki shine. 

Roy asked about the publication history of those Mizuki volumes - there was a made for TV version of a mish-mash of several Miuzki war stories last year that caused Soin Gyokusai Seyo! to become a bestseller. That resulted in compilations like the Daikusen one that you have and a few more - Aa Gyokusai, Aa Taiheiyo I&amp;II - being put together.

It is really unfortunate that Mizuki is not more popular in the English-speaking world. Part of the problem is that you see Evangelion begin described as &quot;old&quot; (it came out in 1995). US anime/manga fandom has little sense of the history of the medium - older masterworks like Tezuka`s BlackJack are more or less ignored by manga buyers in favor of the new Jump stuff. I think that the French have a much better appreciation for older titles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The senchuha also has a strong conservative element that just didn`t want to say anything about the war apart from anti-A-bomb platitudes, however. The contrast with those guys is one of the things that makes Mizuki shine.</p>
<p>Roy asked about the publication history of those Mizuki volumes &#8211; there was a made for TV version of a mish-mash of several Miuzki war stories last year that caused Soin Gyokusai Seyo! to become a bestseller. That resulted in compilations like the Daikusen one that you have and a few more &#8211; Aa Gyokusai, Aa Taiheiyo I&#038;II &#8211; being put together.</p>
<p>It is really unfortunate that Mizuki is not more popular in the English-speaking world. Part of the problem is that you see Evangelion begin described as &#8220;old&#8221; (it came out in 1995). US anime/manga fandom has little sense of the history of the medium &#8211; older masterworks like Tezuka`s BlackJack are more or less ignored by manga buyers in favor of the new Jump stuff. I think that the French have a much better appreciation for older titles.</p>
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		<title>By: mozu</title>
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		<dc:creator>mozu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for Mizuki&#039;s stories, I think that they represent one kind of popular acception of &quot;the War&quot; among senchu-ha戦中派, though, with his own strong accent: humiliation, resignation, anti-war sentiment, guilty consciousness, anger for war responsibilities, love for country, etc. Yes, they are not conformed to post-war left/right paradigm created mainly by a generation born in 1930&#039;s who&#039;ve experienced the War in their childhood and witnessed a radical change of values(imagine Oe and Ishihara).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for Mizuki&#8217;s stories, I think that they represent one kind of popular acception of &#8220;the War&#8221; among senchu-ha戦中派, though, with his own strong accent: humiliation, resignation, anti-war sentiment, guilty consciousness, anger for war responsibilities, love for country, etc. Yes, they are not conformed to post-war left/right paradigm created mainly by a generation born in 1930&#8217;s who&#8217;ve experienced the War in their childhood and witnessed a radical change of values(imagine Oe and Ishihara).</p>
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		<title>By: statiq</title>
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		<dc:creator>statiq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Several of Mizuki&#039;s yokai manga have recently been translated in french (NonNonBâ, Ge-ge-ge no Kitarō), and they are very successful.

So much so that NonNonBâ won the Best Comic Book Price last year at the Angoulême International Comics Festival (biggest comics festival in Europe).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several of Mizuki&#8217;s yokai manga have recently been translated in french (NonNonB&#226;, Ge-ge-ge no Kitarō), and they are very successful.</p>
<p>So much so that NonNonB&#226; won the Best Comic Book Price last year at the Angoul&#234;me International Comics Festival (biggest comics festival in Europe).</p>
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		<title>By: mozu</title>
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		<dc:creator>mozu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 09:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that he is not a nominal Catholic because he&#039;ve talked about his faith openly. Although Japanese Catholics constitute only a small minority group, you can find many in upper class(related to imperial family). 

Most of people are &quot;indifferent&quot; to others&#039; faith, so I believe that it&#039;s surprising for many japanese to see western media focusing on PM&#039;s individual religious faith. 

There existed two christian PMs before Aso in post-war Japan and a famous pre-war PM Hara Takashi was a Catholic, although I don&#039;t know well David Hara kept his faith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that he is not a nominal Catholic because he&#8217;ve talked about his faith openly. Although Japanese Catholics constitute only a small minority group, you can find many in upper class(related to imperial family).</p>
<p>Most of people are &#8220;indifferent&#8221; to others&#8217; faith, so I believe that it&#8217;s surprising for many japanese to see western media focusing on PM&#8217;s individual religious faith.</p>
<p>There existed two christian PMs before Aso in post-war Japan and a famous pre-war <span class="caps">PM </span>Hara Takashi was a Catholic, although I don&#8217;t know well David Hara kept his faith.</p>
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		<title>By: Global Voices Online &#187; Japan: Maga on War and Japan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Global Voices Online &#187; Japan: Maga on War and Japan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 05:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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