Comments on: WP on Japanese blogs: total mischaracterisation, some crucial details left out http://www.mutantfrog.com/2007/12/07/wp-on-japanese-blogs-total-mischaracterisation-some-crucial-details-left-out/ Photos, Stories and articles on East Asia Tue, 16 Mar 2010 03:36:52 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Mutantfrog Travelogue » Blog Archive » Nifty finds 40% of Japanese blogs are SPAM http://www.mutantfrog.com/2007/12/07/wp-on-japanese-blogs-total-mischaracterisation-some-crucial-details-left-out/comment-page-1/#comment-259348 Mutantfrog Travelogue » Blog Archive » Nifty finds 40% of Japanese blogs are SPAM Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:15:57 +0000 http://www.mutantfrog.com/2007/12/07/wp-on-japanese-blogs-total-mischaracterisation-some-crucial-details-left-out/#comment-259348 [...] of the key doubts about Japanese blogging activity that I expressed in my last real post almost four months ago was that it seemed that an inordinate number of accounts on major blogging [...] [...] of the key doubts about Japanese blogging activity that I expressed in my last real post almost four months ago was that it seemed that an inordinate number of accounts on major blogging [...]

]]> By: Global Link Round Up - Race Outside of the US at Racialicious - the intersection of race and pop culture http://www.mutantfrog.com/2007/12/07/wp-on-japanese-blogs-total-mischaracterisation-some-crucial-details-left-out/comment-page-1/#comment-251605 Global Link Round Up - Race Outside of the US at Racialicious - the intersection of race and pop culture Fri, 28 Dec 2007 14:18:18 +0000 http://www.mutantfrog.com/2007/12/07/wp-on-japanese-blogs-total-mischaracterisation-some-crucial-details-left-out/#comment-251605 [...] Mutant Frog Travelouge writes on the gross mischaracterizations of Japanese culture by Americans, specifically in reference to the Washington Post article on blogging in Japan: The overview is essentially a series of variations on the theme “Unlike Americans, who often times blog to stand out, the Japanese blog to fit in.” […] I can appreciate that this “Tokyo Stories” feature is an attempt to provide easy-to-understand vignettes about Japanese culture for an American audience. There is a lot of misunderstanding about Japan, so for readers and visitors to the Washington Post to take an interest in what’s going on on the other side of the world is extremely important. Unfortunately, the blanket generalizations and shallow analysis in this piece undermine that mission. [...] [...] Mutant Frog Travelouge writes on the gross mischaracterizations of Japanese culture by Americans, specifically in reference to the Washington Post article on blogging in Japan: The overview is essentially a series of variations on the theme “Unlike Americans, who often times blog to stand out, the Japanese blog to fit in.” […] I can appreciate that this “Tokyo Stories” feature is an attempt to provide easy-to-understand vignettes about Japanese culture for an American audience. There is a lot of misunderstanding about Japan, so for readers and visitors to the Washington Post to take an interest in what’s going on on the other side of the world is extremely important. Unfortunately, the blanket generalizations and shallow analysis in this piece undermine that mission. [...]

]]> By: Marxy http://www.mutantfrog.com/2007/12/07/wp-on-japanese-blogs-total-mischaracterisation-some-crucial-details-left-out/comment-page-1/#comment-250460 Marxy Mon, 17 Dec 2007 01:03:13 +0000 http://www.mutantfrog.com/2007/12/07/wp-on-japanese-blogs-total-mischaracterisation-some-crucial-details-left-out/#comment-250460 Ya know, the more I compare the link selection for Clast in English and Clast in Japanese, the more I realize that 75% of our Japanese links are spam blogs. I am starting to question whether these are harder to filter out for foreign search companies/ranking softwares. Ya know, the more I compare the link selection for Clast in English and Clast in Japanese, the more I realize that 75% of our Japanese links are spam blogs. I am starting to question whether these are harder to filter out for foreign search companies/ranking softwares.

]]> By: Aceface http://www.mutantfrog.com/2007/12/07/wp-on-japanese-blogs-total-mischaracterisation-some-crucial-details-left-out/comment-page-1/#comment-249985 Aceface Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:26:14 +0000 http://www.mutantfrog.com/2007/12/07/wp-on-japanese-blogs-total-mischaracterisation-some-crucial-details-left-out/#comment-249985 ”I’ve never seen English commentary using whatever the hell the Korean translation of “flaming” is.” I don't think it is used in the original Korean language,but 2ch call it,"Hwabyung" http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%81%AB%E7%97%85 You see a lot of these in The Marmot hole. RECRUIT's free-paper,R25 has article on "blogs in Japanese" in July. Take this Marxy, "かに日本は、もともと海外に比べて識字率が高く、江戸時代では70％を超えていたという。古来より日本人には、読み書きの文化が根付いているのだ。" "もともと日記を書く文化があり、インフラが整い、誰でも気軽にブログを書く環境が揃っている日本。世界一なのもある意味、当然のことなのだ。" http://r25.jp/index.php/m/WB/a/WB001120/id/200707191107 So the upcoming national bestseller wold be entitled as "The Dignity of Blog"? ”I’ve never seen English commentary using whatever the hell the Korean translation of “flaming” is.”

I don’t think it is used in the original Korean language,but 2ch call it,”Hwabyung”
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%81%AB%E7%97%85
You see a lot of these in The Marmot hole.

RECRUIT’s free-paper,R25 has article on “blogs in Japanese” in July.
Take this Marxy,
“かに日本は、もともと海外に比べて識字率が高く、江戸時代では70％を超えていたという。古来より日本人には、読み書きの文化が根付いているのだ。”

“もともと日記を書く文化があり、インフラが整い、誰でも気軽にブログを書く環境が揃っている日本。世界一なのもある意味、当然のことなのだ。”

http://r25.jp/index.php/m/WB/a/WB001120/id/200707191107

So the upcoming national bestseller wold be entitled as “The Dignity of Blog”?

]]> By: Roy Berman http://www.mutantfrog.com/2007/12/07/wp-on-japanese-blogs-total-mischaracterisation-some-crucial-details-left-out/comment-page-1/#comment-249943 Roy Berman Wed, 12 Dec 2007 04:10:38 +0000 http://www.mutantfrog.com/2007/12/07/wp-on-japanese-blogs-total-mischaracterisation-some-crucial-details-left-out/#comment-249943 Then call it "mass flaming" or something- it's still just a slightly different kind of flaming, and it's also basically the same thing you see in Korea (except you see it WAY more in Korea from what I understand) and I've never seen English commentary using whatever the hell the Korean translation of "flaming" is. Then call it “mass flaming” or something- it’s still just a slightly different kind of flaming, and it’s also basically the same thing you see in Korea (except you see it WAY more in Korea from what I understand) and I’ve never seen English commentary using whatever the hell the Korean translation of “flaming” is.

]]> By: Adamu http://www.mutantfrog.com/2007/12/07/wp-on-japanese-blogs-total-mischaracterisation-some-crucial-details-left-out/comment-page-1/#comment-249941 Adamu Wed, 12 Dec 2007 03:48:43 +0000 http://www.mutantfrog.com/2007/12/07/wp-on-japanese-blogs-total-mischaracterisation-some-crucial-details-left-out/#comment-249941 Roy, I agree with you - inserting Japanese terms unnecessarily is inappropriate, and I avoid it whenever possible. But enjo is substantially different from everyday flaming - specifically it refers to "massive flame attacks on blog comment sections" or similar activity. It may have originated as a translation of "flaming" but in the Japanese context it is used differently. Roy, I agree with you – inserting Japanese terms unnecessarily is inappropriate, and I avoid it whenever possible.

But enjo is substantially different from everyday flaming – specifically it refers to “massive flame attacks on blog comment sections” or similar activity. It may have originated as a translation of “flaming” but in the Japanese context it is used differently.

]]> By: Roy Berman http://www.mutantfrog.com/2007/12/07/wp-on-japanese-blogs-total-mischaracterisation-some-crucial-details-left-out/comment-page-1/#comment-249940 Roy Berman Wed, 12 Dec 2007 03:15:12 +0000 http://www.mutantfrog.com/2007/12/07/wp-on-japanese-blogs-total-mischaracterisation-some-crucial-details-left-out/#comment-249940 Thanks Tomojiro- I saw that piece earlier and was going to put a link in somewhere. I have to say, everyone should stop saying "enjo" in English discussions IMMEDIATELY. As this linked piece reminds us, "enjo" is nothing but a direct translation of the long established English term "flame" and on reflection, going around using a random foreign language term that was originally translated from English is really beyond absurd. Thanks Tomojiro- I saw that piece earlier and was going to put a link in somewhere. I have to say, everyone should stop saying “enjo” in English discussions IMMEDIATELY. As this linked piece reminds us, “enjo” is nothing but a direct translation of the long established English term “flame” and on reflection, going around using a random foreign language term that was originally translated from English is really beyond absurd.

]]> By: tomojiro http://www.mutantfrog.com/2007/12/07/wp-on-japanese-blogs-total-mischaracterisation-some-crucial-details-left-out/comment-page-1/#comment-249937 tomojiro Wed, 12 Dec 2007 02:30:27 +0000 http://www.mutantfrog.com/2007/12/07/wp-on-japanese-blogs-total-mischaracterisation-some-crucial-details-left-out/#comment-249937 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2007/12/11/japan-flaming-and-the-secrets-we-hide/ The thought of a Japanese blogger about "enjo" is translated to English. http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2007/12/11/japan-flaming-and-the-secrets-we-hide/

The thought of a Japanese blogger about “enjo” is translated to English.

]]> By: tomojiro http://www.mutantfrog.com/2007/12/07/wp-on-japanese-blogs-total-mischaracterisation-some-crucial-details-left-out/comment-page-1/#comment-249926 tomojiro Wed, 12 Dec 2007 02:10:40 +0000 http://www.mutantfrog.com/2007/12/07/wp-on-japanese-blogs-total-mischaracterisation-some-crucial-details-left-out/#comment-249926 こういうのもあるんだよな。困ったことに http://www.itmedia.co.jp/news/articles/0711/22/news103.html こういうのをサービスとして提供しようという神経がわからん。 でも、個人で炎上しているブログを紹介しているサイトはいくつもある。 こういうのもあるんだよな。困ったことに

http://www.itmedia.co.jp/news/articles/0711/22/news103.html

こういうのをサービスとして提供しようという神経がわからん。
でも、個人で炎上しているブログを紹介しているサイトはいくつもある。

]]> By: Aceface http://www.mutantfrog.com/2007/12/07/wp-on-japanese-blogs-total-mischaracterisation-some-crucial-details-left-out/comment-page-1/#comment-249917 Aceface Wed, 12 Dec 2007 01:21:14 +0000 http://www.mutantfrog.com/2007/12/07/wp-on-japanese-blogs-total-mischaracterisation-some-crucial-details-left-out/#comment-249917 こんなの発見 http://jyakusya.blog69.fc2.com/ こんなの発見

http://jyakusya.blog69.fc2.com/

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