“Me either, frankly. But in the interests of “not feeding” I haven’t bothered to directly respond.”

I am relieved to know that it wasn’t only me who couldn’t understand that and also that it was not because of my poor English quality.

“What the hell are you going on about here? In fact in your entire ranting ad hominem post? If you can’t discuss rationally without resorting to pointless and baseless statements that say nothing and achieve nothing, then your rants have no more validity than a crying baby.”

You said it yourself, buddy, about yourself! Jade Oc needs to stop going around sounding so higher-than-thou, know wot I mean?

And reading all that and I have a feeling that these authors,mostly Chinese,now consider the Chinese civilization is ｍｕｃh more of a polity that those who identify with belong.Perhaps because Wang was born in Indonesia and raised in Malaysia,woeked in HongKong and now in Singapore,he may be cautious about expanding the category to the neighboring countries like Japan and Vietnam for that may create “China Threat syndrome”.

I have been purchasing”and 創元社’s “図説　中国文明史”（total of ten volumes and each costs about 3500 Yen,but definitely worth for).And that is a lot more sino-centric.Adding Mongols,Tibetans and Manchu’s into Chinese civilizations.Something people in the independent Mongolia would dare not to say.

Yomiuri is doing the series of interview of Umezao Tadao梅棹忠夫,ethnologist and former director of National Ethnological Museum in Osaka.He regards Japan had become it’s own civilization after Meiji restoration by cutting the umbilical cord from Chinese civilization.He has been proclaiming of abolishment of Kanji.
Ｔｈｅｓｅ thesis are for some reason,pretty common among Japanese academics expertised in Mongolian studies.(I.g Tanaka Katsuhiko,Okada Hidehiro,Sugiyama Masaaki and many more).Perhaps the idea of “Mongolian civilization”had gave them intellectual inspiration of independent “Japanese civilization”from Chinese influence.These academic ideas are being popularized by the works of say,the
management guru and ex-Economic Plan Agency director Sakaiya Taichi堺屋太一.He has been writing novel of life of Chinghis Khan on Nikkei for the past few years and volume 1 and 2 is currently in the top sellers list in the booshops of Tokyo.

But to clarify, for those who might be confused like “K,” if less inclined to assholery, the term “independent” here is a reference to civilizational groupings as defined in Huntington’s “Clash of Civilizations,” and has little to no relationship with political independence or groupings.

What the hell are you going on about here? In fact in your entire ranting ad hominem post? If you can’t discuss rationally without resorting to pointless and baseless statements that say nothing and achieve nothing, then your rants have no more validity than a crying baby.