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		<title>By: Why Tokyo has three bar associations &#187; Japan Law Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.mutantfrog.com/2007/03/18/a-brief-history-of-lawyers-in-japan/comment-page-1/#comment-213352</link>
		<dc:creator>Why Tokyo has three bar associations &#187; Japan Law Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 16:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] originally promised to post this at Mutant Frog Travelogue, but since my Japan &#8220;blawging&#8221; has moved over [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] originally promised to post this at Mutant Frog Travelogue, but since my Japan &#8220;blawging&#8221; has moved over [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.mutantfrog.com/2007/03/18/a-brief-history-of-lawyers-in-japan/comment-page-1/#comment-208519</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 17:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup. I &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.redhead.jp/japanlaw/2007/04/19/meet-nishimura-asahi-the-largest-law-firm-in-japan/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mentioned it over at the Japan Law Blog&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup. I <a href="http://www.redhead.jp/japanlaw/2007/04/19/meet-nishimura-asahi-the-largest-law-firm-in-japan/" rel="nofollow">mentioned it over at the Japan Law Blog</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: gen</title>
		<link>http://www.mutantfrog.com/2007/03/18/a-brief-history-of-lawyers-in-japan/comment-page-1/#comment-208469</link>
		<dc:creator>gen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 08:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe- didja see this?

http://www.lawfuel.com/show-release.asp?ID=11727</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe- didja see this?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lawfuel.com/show-release.asp?ID=11727" rel="nofollow">http://www.lawfuel.com/show-release.asp?ID=11727</a></p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.mutantfrog.com/2007/03/18/a-brief-history-of-lawyers-in-japan/comment-page-1/#comment-186937</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The preliminary exam was a pretty weird idea for exactly that reason. Although I have to say, it sounds &lt;em&gt;so&lt;/em&gt; wonderful to be able to place out of having to go to law school just by taking a test.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The preliminary exam was a pretty weird idea for exactly that reason. Although I have to say, it sounds <em>so</em> wonderful to be able to place out of having to go to law school just by taking a test.</p>
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		<title>By: Curzon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curzon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 09:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;2010: The old bar exam will be administered for the last time. From 2011 onward, only the new bar exam will be offered. However, prospective attorneys will still be able to waive the law school requirement by taking a “preliminary exam.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Small correction: the old bar will be offered in its complete form until 2010.  In 2011, only the oral exam will be given, i.e. people who passed the written exam (3% pass rate) and fail the oral exam (90% pass rate) are given a final shot to be admitted.  

The preliminary exam may never come into being; some, such as the Komeito, are advocating against this system, as it would make the new law schools moot.  

Can&#039;t wait for info on the old Tokyo Bar Association and the politics therein.</description>
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<blockquote>2010: The old bar exam will be administered for the last time. From 2011 onward, only the new bar exam will be offered. However, prospective attorneys will still be able to waive the law school requirement by taking a &#8220;preliminary exam.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Small correction: the old bar will be offered in its complete form until 2010.  In 2011, only the oral exam will be given, i.e. people who passed the written exam (3% pass rate) and fail the oral exam (90% pass rate) are given a final shot to be admitted.</p>
<p>The preliminary exam may never come into being; some, such as the Komeito, are advocating against this system, as it would make the new law schools moot.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t wait for info on the old Tokyo Bar Association and the politics therein.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 06:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, there are 27,000 lawyers (including prosecutors and judges; 22,000 of these are bengoshi proper). In 2005, when only the old bar exam was being administered, about 1,500 people passed (a 3% pass rate).

The official plan is to step up the pass rate so that 3,000 people pass the bar in 2010. (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.moj.go.jp/SHINGI/SHIHOU/050228-1-1.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Japanese link&lt;/a&gt;) There should be a ~50% pass rate on the new exam over the next few years, because the law schools are gradually increasing their output and the &quot;pre-exam&quot; should bring in many of the people who would have passed the old bar exam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, there are 27,000 lawyers (including prosecutors and judges; 22,000 of these are bengoshi proper). In 2005, when only the old bar exam was being administered, about 1,500 people passed (a 3% pass rate).</p>
<p>The official plan is to step up the pass rate so that 3,000 people pass the bar in 2010. (<a href="http://www.moj.go.jp/SHINGI/SHIHOU/050228-1-1.html" rel="nofollow">Japanese link</a>) There should be a ~50% pass rate on the new exam over the next few years, because the law schools are gradually increasing their output and the &#8220;pre-exam&#8221; should bring in many of the people who would have passed the old bar exam.</p>
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		<title>By: Garrett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 05:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting.  I&#039;d heard that the low passage rate of the &quot;fiendishly difficult&quot; bar exam was connected the 20,000 limit on the total number of lawyers in Japan.  I know that number is set to gradually rise to 50,000.  Do you have any specifics on the timetable for that increase and if there are any other changes to the limit system due?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting.  I&#8217;d heard that the low passage rate of the &#8220;fiendishly difficult&#8221; bar exam was connected the 20,000 limit on the total number of lawyers in Japan.  I know that number is set to gradually rise to 50,000.  Do you have any specifics on the timetable for that increase and if there are any other changes to the limit system due?</p>
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