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	<title>Comments on: The Japan-Korea tunnel gets revisited</title>
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		<title>By: Aceface</title>
		<link>http://www.mutantfrog.com/2007/01/09/the-japan-korea-tunnel-gets-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-242144</link>
		<dc:creator>Aceface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 02:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno about that Joe.
When I was in Korea this May,I covered the event of inter-korean railway and went to this station a t Dorasan which was right near the demilitarized zone.ANd there was this gigantic board on the wall of station saying&quot; destination to Europe starts at Dorasan&quot;.And the rail from Dorasan goes always to Paris by crossing Eurasia...
The new presidential candidate Chung Dong-young is very keen on this project as well as his &quot;progressive(in a very Korean context&quot;progressors and even wrote a book on it called &quot;Train ticket from Kaesong to Paris&quot;.(Dorasan is right in front of NK city of Kaesong where joint-economic zone exists).So he may push Korea&#039;s KTX (The current one is made with parts of French TGV in Korea,but they are designing new version)instead of Shinkansen.

I think we Japanese rather fly or use hydrofoils to Korea,but then again conservative candidate Lee Myoung-bak is thinking about building gigantic canals accross SK and he may wants to launch another mega-construction project with Japan without consalting beforehand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno about that Joe.<br />
When I was in Korea this May,I covered the event of inter-korean railway and went to this station a t Dorasan which was right near the demilitarized zone.ANd there was this gigantic board on the wall of station saying&#8221; destination to Europe starts at Dorasan&#8221;.And the rail from Dorasan goes always to Paris by crossing Eurasia&#8230;<br />
The new presidential candidate Chung Dong-young is very keen on this project as well as his &#8220;progressive(in a very Korean context&#8221;progressors and even wrote a book on it called &#8220;Train ticket from Kaesong to Paris&#8221;.(Dorasan is right in front of NK city of Kaesong where joint-economic zone exists).So he may push Korea&#8217;s <span class="caps">KTX </span>(The current one is made with parts of French <span class="caps">TGV</span> in Korea,but they are designing new version)instead of Shinkansen.</p>
<p>I think we Japanese rather fly or use hydrofoils to Korea,but then again conservative candidate Lee Myoung-bak is thinking about building gigantic canals accross SK and he may wants to launch another mega-construction project with Japan without consalting beforehand.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.mutantfrog.com/2007/01/09/the-japan-korea-tunnel-gets-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-242117</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Japan is already negotiating with Russia on transforming the Trans Siberian railroad to 2-3 day delivery service to Europe with Shinkansen...Putin seems to like the idea...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Japan is already negotiating with Russia on transforming the Trans Siberian railroad to 2-3 day delivery service to Europe with Shinkansen&#8230;Putin seems to like the idea&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.mutantfrog.com/2007/01/09/the-japan-korea-tunnel-gets-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-242116</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well...this might just get built...but only if Japan and Korea feel like they might get left behind.  Since there is a proposal to build a cross straight tunnel from Taiwan to China (Hsinchu to Fuzhou), if the Chinese do this...surely Japan will cozy up with Korea to not feel &quot;left behind&quot;.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan_Strait_Tunnel_Project</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230;this might just get built&#8230;but only if Japan and Korea feel like they might get left behind.  Since there is a proposal to build a cross straight tunnel from Taiwan to China (Hsinchu to Fuzhou), if the Chinese do this&#8230;surely Japan will cozy up with Korea to not feel &#8220;left behind&#8221;.</p>
<p>See <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan_Strait_Tunnel_Project" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan_Strait_Tunnel_Project</a></p>
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		<title>By: Global Voices Online &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Japan and Korea: tunnel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Global Voices Online &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Japan and Korea: tunnel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 06:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Goh Kun, a former prime minister of Korea, is proposing a Japan-Korea tunnel as part of his campaign for president. Joe from Multant Frog gives some historical background on the proposal.    Oiwan Lam [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Goh Kun, a former prime minister of Korea, is proposing a Japan-Korea tunnel as part of his campaign for president. Joe from Multant Frog gives some historical background on the proposal.    Oiwan Lam [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.mutantfrog.com/2007/01/09/the-japan-korea-tunnel-gets-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-103024</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 04:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But let&#039;s face it: if Taiwan isn&#039;t a country, then Michael Jackson isn&#039;t black.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But let&#8217;s face it: if Taiwan isn&#8217;t a country, then Michael Jackson isn&#8217;t black.</p>
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		<title>By: Mutantfrog</title>
		<link>http://www.mutantfrog.com/2007/01/09/the-japan-korea-tunnel-gets-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-103021</link>
		<dc:creator>Mutantfrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 04:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m fairly sure that last weekend I had a dream in which I was arguing with someone about whether Taiwan is really a country or not (I was pro-Taiwan as country). But I&#039;m still not completely positive that it wasn&#039;t a real conversation I had at one of the bars I had been in earlier that evening...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m fairly sure that last weekend I had a dream in which I was arguing with someone about whether Taiwan is really a country or not (I was pro-Taiwan as country). But I&#8217;m still not completely positive that it wasn&#8217;t a real conversation I had at one of the bars I had been in earlier that evening&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 02:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something similar happened when I was in high school in Osaka. On the first day of world history class, the teacher went around the room and asked each student to name a country in Asia. I was last on the roster (having enrolled late) in a class of 40, so by the time they came around to me there weren&#039;t many countries left.

I said &quot;Taiwan,&quot; which hadn&#039;t been named yet.

The teacher (who was Japanese) said &quot;Uh, not really, but all right. Well then, moving right along...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something similar happened when I was in high school in Osaka. On the first day of world history class, the teacher went around the room and asked each student to name a country in Asia. I was last on the roster (having enrolled late) in a class of 40, so by the time they came around to me there weren&#8217;t many countries left.</p>
<p>I said &#8220;Taiwan,&#8221; which hadn&#8217;t been named yet.</p>
<p>The teacher (who was Japanese) said &#8220;Uh, not really, but all right. Well then, moving right along&#8230;&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: M-Bone</title>
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		<dc:creator>M-Bone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 01:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was in a ryugakusei Japanese class at a national uni. A student was asked &quot;What country are you from?&quot; and responded &quot;Taiwan&quot;. A Chinese student gave a haughty laugh and declared that Taiwan is not a country. VERY uncomfortable moment. 

It makes me think that I&#039;m lucky to be from Canada, a country that has very few beefs. Makes being a foreign student easier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was in a ryugakusei Japanese class at a national uni. A student was asked &#8220;What country are you from?&#8221; and responded &#8220;Taiwan&#8221;. A Chinese student gave a haughty laugh and declared that Taiwan is not a country. <span class="caps">VERY</span> uncomfortable moment.</p>
<p>It makes me think that I&#8217;m lucky to be from Canada, a country that has very few beefs. Makes being a foreign student easier.</p>
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		<title>By: Mutantfrog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mutantfrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 00:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The comments at Marmot&#039;s Hole do get pretty scary sometimes. I still like the posts by the actual blog authors, but I stopped looking at/responding to the comments section a while ago. I certainly wouldn&#039;t mind growing the number of good commenters here, but I really don&#039;t want it to turn into some crazy free for all.

&quot;&quot;At the university where I study/teach someone has gone around to virtually all of the maps hanging on classroom walls, crossed out “Sea of Japan”, and written in “East Sea”.&quot;&quot;
In the international dorm where I lived in Kyoto 2002-2003 they posted a notice about SARS or something that said:

China
*Hong Kong
*Taiwan

which one of the Taiwanese students living there helpfully corrected with a magic marker. Not that I didn&#039;t completely agree with the correction myself, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comments at Marmot&#8217;s Hole do get pretty scary sometimes. I still like the posts by the actual blog authors, but I stopped looking at/responding to the comments section a while ago. I certainly wouldn&#8217;t mind growing the number of good commenters here, but I really don&#8217;t want it to turn into some crazy free for all.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;At the university where I study/teach someone has gone around to virtually all of the maps hanging on classroom walls, crossed out &#8220;Sea of Japan&#8221;, and written in &#8220;East Sea&#8221;.&#8221;&#8221;<br />
In the international dorm where I lived in Kyoto 2002-2003 they posted a notice about <span class="caps">SARS</span> or something that said:</p>
<p>China</p>
<p>*Hong Kong</p>
<p>*Taiwan</p>
<p>which one of the Taiwanese students living there helpfully corrected with a magic marker. Not that I didn&#8217;t completely agree with the correction myself, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Mutantfrog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mutantfrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 00:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;SK citizens DO have visa free access to Japan started from march’06.MF.&quot;
Ah right. I remembered that they had set up temporary visa waiver programs twice for Korea, and they made the Taiwan visa waver permanent while I was in Taiwan (I think in 2005 still) and their was speculation that Korea would follow, but I must have missed the headline announcing it was finalized. Thanks for the correction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;SK citizens DO have visa free access to Japan started from march&#8217;06.MF.&#8221;<br />
Ah right. I remembered that they had set up temporary visa waiver programs twice for Korea, and they made the Taiwan visa waver permanent while I was in Taiwan (I think in 2005 still) and their was speculation that Korea would follow, but I must have missed the headline announcing it was finalized. Thanks for the correction.</p>
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