Comments on: The day’s news in Patriotism and rememberance http://www.mutantfrog.com/2006/12/24/the-days-news-in-patriotism-and-rememberance/ Photos, Stories and articles on East Asia Sun, 21 Mar 2010 13:54:22 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Trans-Pacific Radio » TPR News: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - Sanctions, Aso, Shiozaki and Japan’s consumer spending :: Independent Podcasts from Tokyo, Japan - Japanese News, Politics, Business and Economy http://www.mutantfrog.com/2006/12/24/the-days-news-in-patriotism-and-rememberance/comment-page-1/#comment-248591 Trans-Pacific Radio » TPR News: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - Sanctions, Aso, Shiozaki and Japan’s consumer spending :: Independent Podcasts from Tokyo, Japan - Japanese News, Politics, Business and Economy Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:58:10 +0000 http://www.mutantfrog.com/2006/12/24/the-days-news-in-patriotism-and-rememberance/#comment-248591 [...] In the first, the author takes a look at the new education reform law and what it means to teach patriotism in Japan’s schools. In the second, prime minister Abe’s difficulties in getting along with the press are [...] [...] In the first, the author takes a look at the new education reform law and what it means to teach patriotism in Japan’s schools. In the second, prime minister Abe’s difficulties in getting along with the press are [...]

]]> By: Bryce http://www.mutantfrog.com/2006/12/24/the-days-news-in-patriotism-and-rememberance/comment-page-1/#comment-97176 Bryce Fri, 29 Dec 2006 15:06:42 +0000 http://www.mutantfrog.com/2006/12/24/the-days-news-in-patriotism-and-rememberance/#comment-97176 "Right wingers in Japan deride the teaching of things such as comfort women, war crimes and colonialism as anti-patriotic, saying that it will make children feel bad about their country." Hmmm... And I of course (mostly) disagree with them, but your comparason with the recognition of internment camps in the U.S. with war memory in Japan seems to miss the fact that the left in Japan has been quite successful in instituting a sense of national war guilt. The "right wingers" tend to be reactionaries. “Right wingers in Japan deride the teaching of things such as comfort women, war crimes and colonialism as anti-patriotic, saying that it will make children feel bad about their country.”

Hmmm…

And I of course (mostly) disagree with them, but your comparason with the recognition of internment camps in the U.S. with war memory in Japan seems to miss the fact that the left in Japan has been quite successful in instituting a sense of national war guilt. The “right wingers” tend to be reactionaries.

]]> By: Aceface http://www.mutantfrog.com/2006/12/24/the-days-news-in-patriotism-and-rememberance/comment-page-1/#comment-96996 Aceface Fri, 29 Dec 2006 00:48:13 +0000 http://www.mutantfrog.com/2006/12/24/the-days-news-in-patriotism-and-rememberance/#comment-96996 I was reading some of the previous post and got freightened. I am so....'jingoistic' here! I really should stop posting in the middle of the night. I was reading some of the previous post and got freightened.
I am so….’jingoistic’ here!
I really should stop posting in the middle of the night.

]]> By: Aceface http://www.mutantfrog.com/2006/12/24/the-days-news-in-patriotism-and-rememberance/comment-page-1/#comment-96822 Aceface Thu, 28 Dec 2006 10:40:56 +0000 http://www.mutantfrog.com/2006/12/24/the-days-news-in-patriotism-and-rememberance/#comment-96822 It was intended to type as father, not farther.(笑） I'm a Japanese and my wife is a mongolian and she had a son who is now my son through marriage, he is 8 year old.Don't know what his nationality is going to be in the future.I think I let him choose it when he becomes 18. Tell me what do you all think about this Zainichi Korean solution would be,Without this matter solved out I don't think we can step any forward for any immigration policy. It was intended to type as father, not farther.(笑）
I’m a Japanese and my wife is a mongolian and she had a son who is now my son
through marriage, he is 8 year old.Don’t know what his nationality is going to be in the future.I think I let him choose it when he becomes 18.

Tell me what do you all think about this Zainichi Korean solution would be,Without this matter solved out I don’t think we can step any forward for any immigration policy.

]]> By: Adamu http://www.mutantfrog.com/2006/12/24/the-days-news-in-patriotism-and-rememberance/comment-page-1/#comment-96785 Adamu Thu, 28 Dec 2006 06:30:51 +0000 http://www.mutantfrog.com/2006/12/24/the-days-news-in-patriotism-and-rememberance/#comment-96785 Ace: I don't mean to nitpick, but did you mean that your father had been in Japan for 8 years before your mother gave birth to you? Ace: I don’t mean to nitpick, but did you mean that your father had been in Japan for 8 years before your mother gave birth to you?

]]> By: Aceface http://www.mutantfrog.com/2006/12/24/the-days-news-in-patriotism-and-rememberance/comment-page-1/#comment-96486 Aceface Wed, 27 Dec 2006 05:57:11 +0000 http://www.mutantfrog.com/2006/12/24/the-days-news-in-patriotism-and-rememberance/#comment-96486 lots of spelling mistakes ,sorry lots of spelling mistakes ,sorry

]]> By: Aceface http://www.mutantfrog.com/2006/12/24/the-days-news-in-patriotism-and-rememberance/comment-page-1/#comment-96474 Aceface Wed, 27 Dec 2006 05:20:24 +0000 http://www.mutantfrog.com/2006/12/24/the-days-news-in-patriotism-and-rememberance/#comment-96474 The deal should only be made after the unification of Koream that I agree. But by then we have the Chinese as the biggest minority of the country,and then what? I can predict a huge backllush and who can we count on in the time like that to defend the fragile multiculturalism in this country,Arudou Devito? I think the country like Japan should stay the course of becoming a multi-ethnic nation,not multi-national nation.As a farther of 8 year old Mongolian national,I strongly think so. The deal should only be made after the unification of Koream that I agree.
But by then we have the Chinese as the biggest minority of the country,and then what? I can predict a huge backllush and who can we count on in the time like that
to defend the fragile multiculturalism in this country,Arudou Devito?
I think the country like Japan should stay the course of becoming a multi-ethnic
nation,not multi-national nation.As a farther of 8 year old Mongolian national,I strongly think so.

]]> By: Mutantfrog http://www.mutantfrog.com/2006/12/24/the-days-news-in-patriotism-and-rememberance/comment-page-1/#comment-96469 Mutantfrog Wed, 27 Dec 2006 05:04:05 +0000 http://www.mutantfrog.com/2006/12/24/the-days-news-in-patriotism-and-rememberance/#comment-96469 So everyone knows, here is a paragraph from Wikipedia about what I was talking about. <blockquote>Another issue is an examination called the High School Equivalency Test, or daiken, which qualifies those who have not graduated from a regular high school to apply for a place in a state university and take an entrance exam. Until recently, only those who have completed compulsory education (i.e. up to junior high school) were entitled to take daiken; this meant pupils of ethnic schools had to do extra courses before being allowed to take the exam. In 1999 the requirement was amended so that anyone over a certain age are qualified. Campaigners were not satisfied because this still meant graduates of non-Japanese high schools had to take daiken. In 2003, the Education Ministry removed the requirement to take the Equivalency Test from graduates of Chinese schools, Mindan-run Korean schools and international schools affiliated with Western nations and accredited by U.S. and British organizations. However this did not apply to graduates of pro-Pyongyang Korean schools, saying it could not approve their curricula. The decision was left up to individual universities, 70% of which allowed Korean school graduates to apply directly.</blockquote> I do think that this was unfair, but I don't really know what to say about the issue of non-citizen public servants. Do other countries have similar citizenship requirements? I don't think I could call the Japanese policy unfair discrimination if it is the same as international standards, for example. It's really too bad the Japanese and Korean governments won't work out a system by which the Zainichi population can maintain dual citizenship, but I doubt it would be very realistic for either side to allow it. And of course, even if they worked out a deal with Zainichi ROK citizens, it would never, ever, ever extend to the DPRK. So everyone knows, here is a paragraph from Wikipedia about what I was talking about.

Another issue is an examination called the High School Equivalency Test, or daiken, which qualifies those who have not graduated from a regular high school to apply for a place in a state university and take an entrance exam. Until recently, only those who have completed compulsory education (i.e. up to junior high school) were entitled to take daiken; this meant pupils of ethnic schools had to do extra courses before being allowed to take the exam. In 1999 the requirement was amended so that anyone over a certain age are qualified. Campaigners were not satisfied because this still meant graduates of non-Japanese high schools had to take daiken. In 2003, the Education Ministry removed the requirement to take the Equivalency Test from graduates of Chinese schools, Mindan-run Korean schools and international schools affiliated with Western nations and accredited by U.S. and British organizations. However this did not apply to graduates of pro-Pyongyang Korean schools, saying it could not approve their curricula. The decision was left up to individual universities, 70% of which allowed Korean school graduates to apply directly.

I do think that this was unfair, but I don’t really know what to say about the issue of non-citizen public servants. Do other countries have similar citizenship requirements? I don’t think I could call the Japanese policy unfair discrimination if it is the same as international standards, for example.

It’s really too bad the Japanese and Korean governments won’t work out a system by which the Zainichi population can maintain dual citizenship, but I doubt it would be very realistic for either side to allow it. And of course, even if they worked out a deal with Zainichi ROK citizens, it would never, ever, ever extend to the DPRK.

]]> By: Aceface http://www.mutantfrog.com/2006/12/24/the-days-news-in-patriotism-and-rememberance/comment-page-1/#comment-96461 Aceface Wed, 27 Dec 2006 04:44:09 +0000 http://www.mutantfrog.com/2006/12/24/the-days-news-in-patriotism-and-rememberance/#comment-96461 It was a matter of actual law and not school rules,I thought.and speaking frankly I don't find this particulary 'discriminating ' for it was national university ,not private university.Now they are pissing with for not being public servants or can't promote within the system are all 'discriminating'.There should be a line between Japanese citizenly and korean one when we discuss this topic. It was a matter of actual law and not school rules,I thought.and speaking frankly I don’t find this particulary ‘discriminating ’ for it was national university ,not private university.Now they are pissing with for not being public servants or can’t promote within the system are all ‘discriminating’.There should be a line between Japanese citizenly and korean one when we discuss this topic.

]]> By: Mutantfrog http://www.mutantfrog.com/2006/12/24/the-days-news-in-patriotism-and-rememberance/comment-page-1/#comment-96420 Mutantfrog Wed, 27 Dec 2006 02:03:07 +0000 http://www.mutantfrog.com/2006/12/24/the-days-news-in-patriotism-and-rememberance/#comment-96420 I was referring to the former discriminatory practices in college admission for Korean schools, not the funding or operation of the schools. I should have been specific. Isn't it true that national universities formerly did not recognize the Korean high schools in Japan and made it very difficult for those students to get admission? Still, I think this was a matter of school rules and not actual law. I was referring to the former discriminatory practices in college admission for Korean schools, not the funding or operation of the schools. I should have been specific. Isn’t it true that national universities formerly did not recognize the Korean high schools in Japan and made it very difficult for those students to get admission? Still, I think this was a matter of school rules and not actual law.

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