Comments on: Right wing blog, 2-channel harassing Mainichi reporter of Korean ancestry for left-wing stances, speaking rudely about emperor

By: Global Voices Online » Japan: Flaming and the secrets we hide

Global Voices Online » Japan: Flaming and the secrets we hide — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 08:15:57 +0000

[...] of Japanese as the “humble giants of the web“, posters in these forums are known for being ruthless in the extent to which they will chase people down for their perceived wrongdoing. Just a few weeks [...]

By: Mutantfrog Travelogue » Blog Archive » WP on Japanese blogs: total mischaracterisation, some crucial details left out

Fri, 07 Dec 2007 16:31:12 +0000

[...] or Net bullying that is extremely common here and a phenomenon that I have documented here and there [...]

By: Joe

Joe — Tue, 07 Nov 2006 10:54:03 +0000

If an American citizen leaves the country before age 16, their children are not eligible for American citizenship. So if two Americans leave the US at age 16, later marry and have a child in Japan, this child would also be stateless, being eligible neither for Japanese nor American citizenship.

Not quite. If both of the parents are US citizens, the kid will have US citizenship so long as at least one of the parents has lived in the US at some point in their lives. See this site for the details of the law.

Essentially, nationality law the world over is designed to make it REALLY REALLY hard to be born stateless.

Even if you are born stateless, most nations provide an expedited naturalization process for stateless persons who have a genuine link to the country. Japan’s Nationality Act (article 8.4) provides, for instance, that the age, domicile and financial requirements for naturalization are waived if the person “has had no nationality since the time of birth, and has had a domicile in Japan for three consecutive years or more since then,” which would cover just about any Zainichi who couldn’t get citizenship in North or South Korea (as long as they had good behavior).

By: nanashin

nanashin — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 03:47:48 +0000

在日コリアンの来歴
http://mirror.jijisama.org/zainiti_raireki.htm

その他の在日問題
http://mirror.jijisama.org/sonota.htm

Interesting.

By: Aki

Aki — Fri, 03 Nov 2006 05:28:23 +0000

I have been a reader of 2channel since 2000, that was just after the infamous Nishitetsu Bus Hijacking incident. At that time, most of the commenters in 2channel were either pro-Korean or indifferent to Korea-related topics. If someone wrote comments that look anti-Korean, they were quickly bashed by many commenters and kicked out of the thread. But that atmosphere gradually changed over time. I think that the most read Korea-related site at that period was “ぢぢ様玉稿集...”. Original site was deleted by ISP, but its contents have been maintained by volunteers in a lot of servers (e.g. [mirror.jijisama.org]). I guess that it would be helpful to read that site to understand the sentiments of the bloggers originated from 2channel.

By: Mutantfrog

Mutantfrog — Fri, 03 Nov 2006 04:29:24 +0000

Until recently it was actually not as easy for Zainichi to become citizens though. There were various roadblocks, such as a policy (formal or informal I am not sure) of not approving the application unless the entire family wanted to naturalize at once. This of course was a problem when the family was split, and so none of them could get approved.

By: Curzon

Curzon — Thu, 02 Nov 2006 15:30:01 +0000

There is no obstacle for Zainichi to be naturalized in Japan. If they expect it, they will be able to be naturalized easily.

Keeping Korean nationality is their own decision.

So, Zainichi absolutely is not Japanese.

Yes, there are no obstacles to naturalizing Zainichi. Keeping their “Korean” citizenship is their own decision. But they are, for all intents and purposes, Japanese, being born here, raised here, receiving their education here, and participating in general public and civic life.

By: char

char — Thu, 02 Nov 2006 12:48:54 +0000

Hi.
After the end of the WW2, US let the “Chosun” Peninsura(=Korean Peninsura) separate from Japan.
The Japanese Government was going to give Japanese nationality to Koreans who was in Japan.
But, the Koreans denyed it and rioted against it. So, the government gave them “Chosun” nationality because South and North Korea was not established at that time.

After Korean war, both korea was established. And Japanse and South-Korea(ROK) signed “Japan-ROK Basic Relation Treaty”. And Japanese governmnet admited Korea(ROK) is the only country in the Korean Peninsura.
ROK required Japan to thier nationality should be “Korea”. So, Japan presumes that “Korea” is country name and “Chosun” is area name.

There is no obstacle for Zainichi to be naturalized in Japan. If they expect it, they will be able to be naturalized easily.

Keeping Korean nationality is their own decision.

So, Zainichi absolutely is not Japanese.

By: Mutantfrog

Mutantfrog — Thu, 02 Nov 2006 08:27:59 +0000

Curzon, people do not have to apply for a DPRK passport if they do not want to, but as I understand it the important thing is that the DPRK government considers the “stateless” Zainichi with Chosen citizenship to be DPRK citizens, and will allow them to obtain DPRK passports. Isn’t that the recognition that matters?

By: Curzon

Curzon — Thu, 02 Nov 2006 07:31:50 +0000

So MF, what if someone does not want DPRK citizenship? This doesn’t change the fact that there are statless, passport-less permanent residents in Japan of “Korean” ancestry with no state as their state of origin. I say it for a third time: Japan telling a foreigner born in Japan that they are a certain nationality does not automatically require that state to recognize the individual as a citizen. This is true in the US also, by the way: if an American citizen leaves the country before age 16, their children are not eligible for American citizenship. So if two Americans leave the US at age 16, later marry and have a child in Japan, this child would also be stateless, being eligible neither for Japanese nor American citizenship.

nanashin: You are a twat. While I may no sympathy for left-wing causes of Mindan and other Korean groups in Japan, stereotypes of narrow-minded Japanese like yourself who generalize “Koreans” as arrogant and infatuated with Korea only serve to justify the resentment towards Japan that many Zainichi hold towards how they are treated in Japan. Do us all a favor and shut the fuck up.